Heimo Zobernig is one of the most interesting graphic designer of the art world, and beyond. He is also a brilliant artist and an unconventional and clearheaded thinker. Denys Zacharopoulos is an art historian and theorist. He was a curator, amongst others, at the 48th Biennale in Venice and documenta IX in Kassel, and an influential curator and writer in the 1990s. Here is a interview with Zacharopoulos.